Comments on: Sherlock Holmes http://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html Abridged Scripts for Movies Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Craighttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-116808 Craig Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:36:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-116808 As a huge fan of the original stories, I was thrilled to see Downey's Holmes. I've seen other incarnations, and on the whole he gets portrayed as very genteel and refined. The books show that he is indeed suave and dapper with a cutting sense of humour, but also slovenly and irregular in his habits, egomaniacal, appallingly oblivious of other people's feelings, a manic-depressive drug abuser prone to fits of depression and bouts of vicious temper - keep in mind, this is the character who served as the inspiration for Greg House.Sherlock Holmes was an imperfect film to put it mildly, but to see a Holmes with all his glorious faults in full flower was a most refreshing experience. As a huge fan of the original stories, I was thrilled to see Downey's Holmes. I've seen other incarnations, and on the whole he gets portrayed as very genteel and refined. The books show that he is indeed suave and dapper with a cutting sense of humour, but also slovenly and irregular in his habits, egomaniacal, appallingly oblivious of other people's feelings, a manic-depressive drug abuser prone to fits of depression and bouts of vicious temper - keep in mind, this is the character who served as the inspiration for Greg House.

Sherlock Holmes was an imperfect film to put it mildly, but to see a Holmes with all his glorious faults in full flower was a most refreshing experience.

]]> By: Jonhttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-116804 Jon Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:50:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-116804 This movie and Robert Downy Jr. got a lot of flak for being portraying Holmes as more of an action-hero than a detective, but in that regard it was actually more faithful to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories. Being a detective is a dangerous job, so it's not very far-fetched to portray Holmes as being able to fight well. The stories say that Holmes was a very proficient at boxing, fencing, stick fighting, marksmanship and bartitsu (a Victorian-era version of MMA). However, while it was great to see the new movie showcase Holmes' martial prowess, it was disappointing that unlike the stories, it failed to point out clues that could have allowed the audience to solve the case themselves. And ended up essentially being a plug for the sequel. Although since Moriarty wasn't established as the villain of the movie, it wasn't exactly a surprise to find out there would be a sequel featuring him. This movie and Robert Downy Jr. got a lot of flak for being portraying Holmes as more of an action-hero than a detective, but in that regard it was actually more faithful to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's stories. Being a detective is a dangerous job, so it's not very far-fetched to portray Holmes as being able to fight well. The stories say that Holmes was a very proficient at boxing, fencing, stick fighting, marksmanship and bartitsu (a Victorian-era version of MMA). However, while it was great to see the new movie showcase Holmes' martial prowess, it was disappointing that unlike the stories, it failed to point out clues that could have allowed the audience to solve the case themselves. And ended up essentially being a plug for the sequel. Although since Moriarty wasn't established as the villain of the movie, it wasn't exactly a surprise to find out there would be a sequel featuring him.

]]> By: Paigehttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-116656 Paige Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:54:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-116656 "MARK STRONGI'm going to murder all of you unless someone explains to me how to loosen the collar on my fucking shirt!"I died.  "MARK STRONGI'm going to murder all of you unless someone explains to me how to loosen the collar on my fucking shirt!"I died. 

]]> By: Erin Williamshttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-111329 Erin Williams Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:14:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-111329 I agree that Robert Downey, Jr. was a tad too Iron Man-esque in the movie. It's like he couldn't manage to transition from one franchise to another. I agree that Robert Downey, Jr. was a tad too Iron Man-esque in the movie. It's like he couldn't manage to transition from one franchise to another.

]]> By: V_FreedomForeverhttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-111018 V_FreedomForever Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:54:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-111018 *edit* - I didn't word "saving the details for last minute" very well, now that I look at that lol. I meant that you seem to believe this is a silly device the filmmakers chose to use, when in fact, this was how almost every Sherlock Holmes story went; he never revealed his clues, methods, or major deductions until the very end. I was trying to say that making fun of this is not very fair, since Arthur Conan Doyle used it and it is therfore natural to be in an LOYAL adaptation of his stories. Just wanted to clear that up =D *edit* - I didn't word "saving the details for last minute" very well, now that I look at that lol. I meant that you seem to believe this is a silly device the filmmakers chose to use, when in fact, this was how almost every Sherlock Holmes story went; he never revealed his clues, methods, or major deductions until the very end. I was trying to say that making fun of this is not very fair, since Arthur Conan Doyle used it and it is therfore natural to be in an LOYAL adaptation of his stories.
Just wanted to clear that up =D

]]> By: V_FreedomForeverhttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-111017 V_FreedomForever Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:37:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-111017 While I found many of the jokes made here hilarious, I'm afraid this is a rather poorly written "abridged" script. This movie was actually quite faithful to the original STORIES - like someone else has stated, you seem to be comparing it to the other film adaptations which, frankly, did not do a very good job of portraying who Holmes or Watson really were. This movie wasn't perfect, because nothing is ever perfect, but I and many others found it highly enjoyable, and though the majority of the population is wrong on occasion (*cough* twilight *cough*) I believe we're very much correct here. If the things you were making fun of were actually true, such as Holmes not being a fighter or saving all the details until the end - to name just a couple - this would be a great script. However, they AREN'T true for the most part, and that was disappointing. I hope you keep writing these, they are extremely entertaining, but I hope you spend a little more time thinking about what you're poking fun of next time. =) While I found many of the jokes made here hilarious, I'm afraid this is a rather poorly written "abridged" script. This movie was actually quite faithful to the original STORIES - like someone else has stated, you seem to be comparing it to the other film adaptations which, frankly, did not do a very good job of portraying who Holmes or Watson really were. This movie wasn't perfect, because nothing is ever perfect, but I and many others found it highly enjoyable, and though the majority of the population is wrong on occasion (*cough* twilight *cough*) I believe we're very much correct here.
If the things you were making fun of were actually true, such as Holmes not being a fighter or saving all the details until the end - to name just a couple - this would be a great script. However, they AREN'T true for the most part, and that was disappointing.
I hope you keep writing these, they are extremely entertaining, but I hope you spend a little more time thinking about what you're poking fun of next time. =)

]]> By: Caithttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-106791 Cait Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:30:00 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-106791 This is fucking amazing xD I laughed so hard, my fave lines were def "My mustache disapproves of your murderous ways." and "Im a doctor, so i punch things"you, my friend, are brilliant xD Thanks for the entertainment. This is fucking amazing xD I laughed so hard, my fave lines were def "My mustache disapproves of your murderous ways." and "Im a doctor, so i punch things"

you, my friend, are brilliant xD Thanks for the entertainment.

]]> By: Connhttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-106530 Conn Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:33:12 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-106530 This was pretty entertaining of a read, if kind of inaccurate. Like Paradoxasaurus (and maybe others, I didn't read all the comments) said before, many of the things you mention as being anti-Holmes is actually pretty prevalent in the books. In the first book it talks about how damn good Holmes is with fisticuffs, and in multiple books there is almost always a few scenes lightly described as 'a brief scuffle' in which Holmes, all by his lonesome, successfully takes on hardened criminals. It's never really described with detail, but the only explanation is that Holmes is more than capable of looking out for himself. And since he's mentioned repeatedly before that all his skills and capabilities stem from his deductive mind, it's likely his fighting capabilities also stem from it, like how it was shown in the movie. Plus, Holmes almost never used deductive logic. His clues and reasoning never invariably led to each new conclusion as the only possible result. It was actually called Inductive Logic, sometimes called Holmesian in honor of its most famous practitioner. He made inferences, educated guesses, that were generally correct because he did have a genius intellect and could sort through all the different interpretations to find the most likely one. And as for Watson punching things, well he was in the army. Saw action, too, since he uses the cane thanks to an old war wound. He doesn't always describe his martial prowess, but as I've already mentioned Holmes himself was quite the talented fighter. And yet it was usually Watson who carried the gun around and acted as the muscle of the group. Watson also had a knack for finding simplistic solutions that Holmes' overly complex reasoning would miss or overlook. Like kicking in a door while Holmes studies the handle for the best possible way of picking the lock. And the rivalry between Scotland Yard and Holmes was pretty well portrayed. The head detective was usually portrayed as the average in capability detective, constantly overshadowed by Holmes and irritated by it. Despite that, though, they did frequently work together to reach a common goal. Rivalry, but no bad blood. This did a good job of portraying that, without doing the more common interpretations of either the cop's complete subservience or lethal mutual hatred. My personal opinion of the new Holmes movie is that it is a must for fans of Sherlock Holmes. It is a modern-day interpretation of it, with the actors giving their own individual spin on the personalities of their characters, but it did a beautiful job of capturing the spirit of the books. Much more so than some of the more famous, black and white movies and television shows, where they pretty much just gave Conan's character names and locations into the popular mystery books of those days. Okay, before submitting I read through the comments, and pretty much everyone said what I'm saying. But what the Hell, what's the Internet for if not mindlessly repeating? It's good to see people who've actually read these great books and enjoyed what the movie got right. This was pretty entertaining of a read, if kind of inaccurate. Like Paradoxasaurus (and maybe others, I didn't read all the comments) said before, many of the things you mention as being anti-Holmes is actually pretty prevalent in the books. In the first book it talks about how damn good Holmes is with fisticuffs, and in multiple books there is almost always a few scenes lightly described as 'a brief scuffle' in which Holmes, all by his lonesome, successfully takes on hardened criminals. It's never really described with detail, but the only explanation is that Holmes is more than capable of looking out for himself. And since he's mentioned repeatedly before that all his skills and capabilities stem from his deductive mind, it's likely his fighting capabilities also stem from it, like how it was shown in the movie. Plus, Holmes almost never used deductive logic. His clues and reasoning never invariably led to each new conclusion as the only possible result. It was actually called Inductive Logic, sometimes called Holmesian in honor of its most famous practitioner. He made inferences, educated guesses, that were generally correct because he did have a genius intellect and could sort through all the different interpretations to find the most likely one.

And as for Watson punching things, well he was in the army. Saw action, too, since he uses the cane thanks to an old war wound. He doesn't always describe his martial prowess, but as I've already mentioned Holmes himself was quite the talented fighter. And yet it was usually Watson who carried the gun around and acted as the muscle of the group. Watson also had a knack for finding simplistic solutions that Holmes' overly complex reasoning would miss or overlook. Like kicking in a door while Holmes studies the handle for the best possible way of picking the lock.

And the rivalry between Scotland Yard and Holmes was pretty well portrayed. The head detective was usually portrayed as the average in capability detective, constantly overshadowed by Holmes and irritated by it. Despite that, though, they did frequently work together to reach a common goal. Rivalry, but no bad blood. This did a good job of portraying that, without doing the more common interpretations of either the cop's complete subservience or lethal mutual hatred.

My personal opinion of the new Holmes movie is that it is a must for fans of Sherlock Holmes. It is a modern-day interpretation of it, with the actors giving their own individual spin on the personalities of their characters, but it did a beautiful job of capturing the spirit of the books. Much more so than some of the more famous, black and white movies and television shows, where they pretty much just gave Conan's character names and locations into the popular mystery books of those days.

Okay, before submitting I read through the comments, and pretty much everyone said what I'm saying. But what the Hell, what's the Internet for if not mindlessly repeating? It's good to see people who've actually read these great books and enjoyed what the movie got right.

]]> By: wrenhttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-95840 wren Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:43:28 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-95840 Man-'stache? Are you implying that an ordinary mustache belongs to a woman? Man-'stache? Are you implying that an ordinary mustache belongs to a woman?

]]> By: nanahttp://www.the-editing-room.com/sherlock-holmes.html#comment-93075 nana Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:56:41 +0000 http://www.the-editing-room.com/?p=1281#comment-93075 Good job. Favorite sentence: "I’m a doctor, so I punch things" Good job. Favorite sentence: "I’m a doctor, so I punch things"

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